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kmccutcheon



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PostPosted: Sun Sep 07, 2003 09:02    Post subject: Argus AS-5 Reply with quote

Anyone have any information on the Argus AS-5 engines? Someone has tentatively identified one of the images in the AEHS gallery as an Argus AS-5, but I can find no information about it in any of the references I have available. It appears to be a double-“W”. Image at:
http://www.enginehistory.org/19.jpg
Thanks in advance,
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wallan



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PostPosted: Sun Sep 07, 2003 10:11    Post subject: Reply with quote

The picture has been taken face on. Below is a link to a 3/4 view, of the same exhibit. It's in a Polish museum. Looks cool.

http://www.preservedaxisaircraft.com/Luftwaffe/Engines/Argus%20AS%205%20Krakow.jpg


http://www.muz-lotnictwa.krakow.pl/collection.html


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PostPosted: Sun Sep 07, 2003 10:15    Post subject: Reply with quote

Should have said that the museum ID's it as an Argus AS-5. If anybody has a copy of 'Kolben-Flugmotoren', handy, they can check number of cylinders and configuration, and confirm.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 08, 2003 09:27    Post subject: Reply with quote

wallan wrote:
Should have said that the museum ID's it as an Argus AS-5. If anybody has a copy of 'Kolben-Flugmotoren', handy, they can check number of cylinders and configuration, and confirm.


Thanks for the help. I hope someone can supply some details.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 09, 2003 05:55    Post subject: Reply with quote

Would it be described as an X-24 arrangement. The Jumo 222 and Daimler-Benz 604 had this arrangement. Perhaps Argus built a prototype as well
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 09, 2003 07:28    Post subject: Reply with quote

gbrossett wrote:
Would it be described as an X-24 arrangement. The Jumo 222 and Daimler-Benz 604 had this arrangement. Perhaps Argus built a prototype as well


More accurately, a double-W. From what I can see in the pictures, it appears to be a 24-cylinder engine (six banks of four rows), with all the cylinders in each "row" in the same plane, indicating a master/articulated rod arrangement.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 10, 2003 08:55    Post subject: Reply with quote

Piotr Lopalewski, Chief Registry & Research Dept. at the Polish Aviation Museum,Krakow has provided the following information:

Argus As-5
24-cylinder, water cooled "W"configuration
Maximum output: 1,119 kw (1,500 hp) at 1,800 RPM
Compression ratio: 5.6:1
Capacity: 94.1 liters (5,742 cu in)
Weight: 1,100 kg (2,425 lbs)
The engine was probably envisaged for a big, single engine passenger plane. The designer was engineer Riedel–the same who designed the two-stroke starter engine for the Jumo 004 turbojet engine. Three prototype As-5s were built between 1924 and 1927. None were ever flown.

I just love the Internet!!
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 12, 2003 05:37    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, the internet sure makes the world smaller.

Guess the pre RLM numbering system at Argus Motoren Geselschaft was confusing
AS-5 (W24)
AS-8 (inline 4)
AS-10 (V-10)
AS-410 (V-12) post RLM
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 13, 2003 19:25    Post subject: Reply with quote

090-099 - various minor manufacturers
100-199 - Bayerische Motorenwerke GmbH (BMW); later changed to 800 block
200-299 - Junkers Flugzeug- und Motorenwerke A.G.
300-399 - BMW-Flugmotorenwerke Brandenburg GmbH (BMW-Bramo)
400-499 - Argus-Motoren GmbH
500-599 - Heinkel Hirth Motoren GmbH
600-699 - Daimler-Benz A.G.
700-799 - Klöckner-Humboldt-Deutz A.G.
800-899 - Bayerische Motorenwerke GmbH (BMW)

FROM:
http://www.designation-systems.net/non-us/germany.html#_Engines_Piston
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 11, 2003 06:39    Post subject: polish Museum Me 209 V1 Reply with quote

How can I contact the Museum for more info on this bird??
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 11, 2003 08:07    Post subject: Museum contact details Reply with quote

If you check their website, below, you get contact details for requests, including e-mail.

http://www.muz-lotnictwa.krakow.pl/estrona.html
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