enginehistory.org Forum Index enginehistory.org
Aircraft Engine Historical Society Members' Bulletin Board
 
 FAQFAQ   SearchSearch   MemberlistMemberlist   UsergroupsUsergroups 
 ProfileProfile   Log in to check your private messagesLog in to check your private messages   Log inLog in 

Five-stroke double expansion engine

 
Post new topic   Reply to topic    enginehistory.org Forum Index -> Book, Mags, Films, Recordings, Reference
View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
jaymerich



Joined: 11 Dec 2009
Posts: 24
Location: E28033; Madrid,Spain

PostPosted: Fri Dec 25, 2009 11:31    Post subject: Five-stroke double expansion engine Reply with quote

Hi!: as a matter of curiosity, entering www.oepm.es , Invenes, or ESPACENET, and searching for inventor name Carlos Ubierna Laciana, you may watch the patent application 1975, 0433850, for a 5-stroke double expansion internal combustion engine, not too different from the engine ILMOR is currently working on. Other related inventions appear in 0546679, and 0156621 (Francisco Jimeno Cataneo). The concept of double expansion was already exposed by Otto himself, in 1879 (1). It seems that the spanish INTA worked previously, and even built some prototypes of a similar double expansion air cooled radial aircraft internal combustion piston engine, claimed having a very low SFC, project headed by engineer Ortuño. If I succeed in finding more about this peculiar engine, I will let you know, as it seems that everywhere some people interested in unusual engines exists. INTA worked in the early post-WWII years on a oblique compressor aircraft turbine engine in the 1500 kg thrust range, inspired in an Heinkel WWII turbine; development ceased after a quarrel between the engineer in charge and somebody in the Air Force ministry. (1): Takashi Suzuki, Ph.D. "The Romance of Engines", SAE, 1997

Last edited by jaymerich on Sat Mar 31, 2012 11:30; edited 7 times in total
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail AIM Address
rvidal



Joined: 13 May 2005
Posts: 1
Location: Barcelona, Spain

PostPosted: Tue Apr 20, 2010 10:54    Post subject: engine "ortuño" Reply with quote

About the engine of 5 stroke double expansion-One example of this engine is in the Museo del Aire de Cuatro Vientos de Madrid. With a very good condition.
-One explanation of his principle of functioning is in my book "El motor de Aviación, de la A a la Z", including foto and diagrams.


-The turbine that you mention is the INI-11, a copy of HeS-011 built in Spain by german technicians. One exemplaire is in the same Museum, in good condition. Mentioned in the same Book.

Ricardo Miguel Vidal 20-april 2010.
_________________
Engines of all the times and all the countries.

Alternative E-mail: ricard.miguel.vidal@gmail.com
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Visit poster's website
jaymerich



Joined: 11 Dec 2009
Posts: 24
Location: E28033; Madrid,Spain

PostPosted: Wed Aug 08, 2012 19:36    Post subject: 5-Stroke engine Reply with quote

The subject of the XIXth Century Otto three cylinder IC double expansion engine is well discussed in the book by T Suzuki "The Romance of Engines", SAE. The double and triple expansion concept was widely employed in steam machines, the Titanic had ones of this kind.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail AIM Address
Display posts from previous:   
Post new topic   Reply to topic    enginehistory.org Forum Index -> Book, Mags, Films, Recordings, Reference All times are GMT - 6 Hours
Page 1 of 1

 
Jump to:  
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum


Powered by phpBB © 2001, 2005 phpBB Group